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Minutes of the P-2.4 Committee on Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors
April 16, 2002
Sheraton Old Town Inn, Albuquerque, NM

The meeting was called-to-order at 5:00 PM by Acting Chairman Dan O'Brien

1.0 Introductions
A round of introductions was conducted.

2.0 Committee Organization and Procedures

2.1 Membership and Attendance
Attendance was taken, and it was officially determined that a quorum was present.

2.2 Approval of Agenda
The committee approved the agenda with the following additions: election of new chair and consideration of merging P-2.2 and P-2.4 to one group.

2.3 Approval of Minutes
Minutes of the 24 April 2001 meeting at the Hyatt Hotel in San Antonio, TX were approved.

2.4 Approval of Minutes
Minutes of the 09 October meeting in Philadelphia, PA were approved.

2.5 Approval of Teleconference minutes
Minutes of the 30 October 2001 Teleconference were approved.

2.4 Correspondence
None

2.5 Review of the Committee's Scope
Because Mike Mosier could no longer chair P-2.4 and because of reduced participation in P-2.4, the committee agreed to combine P-2.2 and P-2.4

The proposed scope for the combined committee is:
Aluminum electrolytic, paper, film, and mica capacitors for all AC and DC applications except inductive heating and utility power-factor correction.

The proposed name for the combined committee is:
P-2.2 Aluminum, Film and Mica Capacitors Subcommittee.

The committee will vote on the scope and name at the next meeting.

3.0 Reports

3.1 DSCC report
Ken Beymer of DSCC delivered an update of activities.

3.2 Report on the U-1 Committee
All present for this session were also at the U-1 meeting, so no discussion took place.

4.0 Old Business

4.1 Status of PN-4283 (EIA-797), Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitor Application Guideline.
The committee agreed that the document was ready to be sent out for ballot.

4.2 Status Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitor Qualification Specification. Mike Lauri agreed to resolve comments submitted by Terry Charles

4.3 Status of PN 4985 - Aluminum Electrolytic Chip Capacitor with Polymer Cathode. Terry Charles showed data on Kemet parts that showed samples tested did not meet dc leakage requirements after solder-reflow heat exposure (2 min @ 180 °C, 5 sec @ 240 °C). Terry wants the standard to be relaxed so that operation at 125 °C was at no more than 75% of rated voltage. Agreed to eliminate ratings table because could not agree on ratings. Agreed to eliminate 7343-11 Low Profile from Table 1 because that case outline is not available from Kemet. In Table 4 agreed to 3000 min for 7343-30, 2000 min for 7343-31 and 2000 min for 7343-43. In Specifications agreed to eliminate the Rated Capacitance range and eliminate 7.1.1 Ripple Current.

Kemet and Panasonic agreed to have a teleconference to resolve the 125 °C operating issues. The teleconference members would include Terry Charles, Mike Greenwood, Mike Lauri, Laird Macomber, John Moore, Dick Thompson and Panasonic personnel to be determined. Terry Charles agreed to contact Laird Macomber and suggest a time and date.

4.3 Status of ballot to approve revision to EIA-463-A, Fixed Aluminum Capacitors for Alternating Current Motor Starting. This was circulated on SP on March 19th with voting period expiring on May 20th. It is SP-5004, Proposed revision to EIA-463-A "Fixed Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors for Alternating Current Motor Starting, Heavy Duty (Type 1) and for Standard Duty (Type 2). ECA only received two ballots, back one favorable and one abstention,. And does not have enough to go to EDEC and ANSI.

4.4 Report of Task Group to review EIA-395, "Polarized Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors for Long Life (Type 1) and for General Purpose Application (Type 2)." The committee agreed to rescind the document because it was obsolete and did not represent aluminum electrolytic capacitors in current production.

4.5 Report of Task Group drafting new specification for "Polymer Aluminum Qualification Specification." The committee reassembled the task group as including Terry Charles, Mike Lauri, Laird Macomber, John Moore and Dick Thompson. The task group will report at the next meeting.

4.6 Five Year Review of Documents
Review of documents was deferred to the next meeting.

5.0 New Business

5.1 Review of P-2.4 time-slot and meeting length.
The committee agreed that the new combined committee would require a two-hour meeting, and since P-2.2 and P-2.4 had been scheduled consecutively in past meetings, it would retain the same spot in the rotation.

5.3 Selection of New Chairman
Laird L Macomber agreed to be acting chairman until a new chairman can be chosen at the first combined meeting of P-2.2 and P-2.4.

6.0 Next Meeting
The next meeting will be at the ECA Fall Engineering Summit week of 7-10 October 2002 at the Downtown Marriott in Charlotte, NC.

7.0 Adjournment
The member discussion was completed by 6:00 PM

This session was conducted in accordance with the EIA Legal Guidelines and the Manual of Organization and Procedures.

Dan O'Brien, Acting Chairman
Signature on file

Edward F. Mikoski, Jr., Acting Secretary
Signature on file

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